Revolver Accuracy - group size
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Revolver Accuracy - group size
What group size should a good revolver and 158gr. loads make at 50 yards?
sbtzc- Posts : 188
Join date : 2013-05-21
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
If you are lucky, 1.5 inches. Average may be 2 to 3 inches. Sometimes 1.5 feet since 158gr lead loads can be tricky.
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CR10X- Posts : 1777
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
Mine is like CR10X says, 2-3" which was plenty good enough to go Distinguished. As I understand it, if you are using a Smith, the twist is not exactly right for what we are trying to do. So we can't expect tiny groups.
Phil
Phil
PMcfall- Posts : 392
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
A little more info. What make gun. Cast or jacketed. Maybe we can give you some pointers.
Zepp- Posts : 20
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
Try 2.5 - 2.7gr CLAYS behind a ZERO 158gr LSWCHP
Allgoodhits- Posts : 899
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
Zepp wrote:A little more info. What make gun. Cast or jacketed. Maybe we can give you some pointers.
S&W 19-3's, 6" and 4". They both seem to 'like' the same loads with similar groups. I've been using cast swc, but prefer coated in general. Groups are out into the white, 25 yards on 25 t/r targets with me holding. Not on call. (I can usually hold the black with .22 and .45.)
The link Jim provided is good. Seems lighter is better, correct?
I see a lot of fire out of the sides on the 6". The end play is 0.008". Too much?
sbtzc- Posts : 188
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
It is my understanding the S&W likes a .358 diameter bullet.
With a good trigger 3 at 50.
With a good trigger 3 at 50.
Zepp- Posts : 20
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
Perhaps, I've stumbled onto the problem >>>--------> the dip $#!+ behind the trigger.sbtzc wrote:Groups are out into the white, 25 yards on 25 t/r targets with me holding. Not on call.
I'll see what can be done with bags and resting.
Thank you all for the information. I now know what to shoot for.
Brian
sbtzc- Posts : 188
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
Want to see how accurate your S&W can be? Test it with 110gr XTP And 4.2gr Bullseye powder. Roll crimp on cannelure. That bullet with that load loves 1:18.75 barrels. It will give you something to compare to. FYI. Zero SWCHP are great bullets but not legal for DR. Neither are the XTP. But accurate.
LenV- Posts : 4758
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
Try the Magtech 158 LRN bullet and drive it at 750 fps with the typical BE pistol powders for DR in a SW revolver.
The American Eagle and Magtech 158 gun LRN factory loads are most accurate in my revolver (S&W 14-5) and what I compare my reloads against for DR. I used the American Eagle factory load exclusively to complete DR, cheap, and shoots great.
The American Eagle and Magtech 158 gun LRN factory loads are most accurate in my revolver (S&W 14-5) and what I compare my reloads against for DR. I used the American Eagle factory load exclusively to complete DR, cheap, and shoots great.
TonyH- Posts : 801
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
The PPC guys have this figured out.
Outthere- Posts : 306
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
I found thru RR testing, 3.2 grs WST with Zero 158 SWC to be the best in my S&W 19. Not one hole, but 2 1/2" which was plenty good enough.
Phil
Phil
PMcfall- Posts : 392
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Re: Revolver Accuracy - group size
I bag rested and shot 12 rounds within 3.5" @ 25 yards (158 Acme, 3.3 w231, 6" S&W 19-3). There were 2 doubles about an inch apart. There was an inner group of 5 within 1.25".
Obviously, my technique is lacking. I'm going to try 158's from DG Bullets (on order).
Hey, at least with me shooting, someone else might get a point or two toward DR.
Obviously, my technique is lacking. I'm going to try 158's from DG Bullets (on order).
Hey, at least with me shooting, someone else might get a point or two toward DR.
sbtzc- Posts : 188
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