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Post by Yiogo 3/19/2013, 10:47 am

I was planning to use my R1 for Bullseye. I was planning to use it stock. I may put on adjustable sights (dovetailed) Or I may put on a scope mount for a red dot. That Clark mount looks like a possible solution with a red dot scope. Can someone suggest scope mounts or adjustable sights? I'm planning to shoot 230 gr ball and don't figure to start reloading. Primers, etc are hard to bet anyway. Advice appreciated. THank you. Yiogo

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Post by sixftunda 3/19/2013, 11:51 am

I have shot a .45 match with winchester white box ammo. I dont recommend it.

I have shot bullseye with entry level 1911's and there is nothing wrong with it. Y
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Post by sixftunda 3/19/2013, 11:55 am

Sorry hit the send button too early.

You should really start hunting down some primers and powder. You can buy good bullets cheap from Quality Cast. I just ordered 2000 rounds of 160 gr for 146.00 including shipping. Even a single stage press will get you going.

As far as sights go. If you are on a budget, skip the optics for now and go with iron sights. Personally I think that using your funds for reloading and entry fees would be the first priority over optics.
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Post by Yiogo 3/19/2013, 12:33 pm

Thank you, sixfunds. Yiogo

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Post by DavidR 3/19/2013, 1:11 pm

Aimtech makes a good grip mount scope rail, as to your gun and 230 ball ammo, its going to be very expensive to shoot bullseye matches. ammo in short supply and the average price of 45 230 being 20.00 for 50 rds, before the obama ammo craze if you can get it or even if you have some, it takes if like most you plan to shoot centerfire also with the 45, 180 rounds and at least 10 more for possible alibi's. 190-200 min per match, thats 80.00 a match + the cost of 100 rounds of 22, and the cost of the match fees. If spending 110.+ to shoot a match is in your budget then your good. You can reload 200 lswc 45s for 40.00, and they will be way more accurate too. So you would save a lot in the long run by getting into reloading. A Lee 1000 press factory setup to load 45s is about 200.00 new on ebay. something to think about.
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Post by davekp 3/19/2013, 2:12 pm

Shooting ball ammo for bullseye will put you at a real disadvantage.

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Post by Yiogo 3/19/2013, 3:03 pm

Thanks, DaveP and DaveR. I typed a reply but don't know what happened to it. I appreciate your advice. I only plan to shoot at the local level. LOL. I'm just starting out with Bullseye. I just finished my first winter season of it. For the spring, we can shoot 22 rimfire or centerfire in any combination. At most it would be 30 shots with centerfire and then I'd use my 22. Reloading may be in my future but not right now. Fishing, gardening and archery 3d are also hobbies. Thanks again. :)Yiogo

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Post by Rob Kovach 3/19/2013, 8:44 pm

Yiogo,
As you start making friends at the matches you attend, almost every other shooter will be reloading. I bought reloaded ammo from other shooters for YEARS!! (even after I bought reloading equipment) They eventually cut me off for my own good, and now I make my own. I'm sure if you tried, you could find other shooters who will make ammo for you.
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Post by Yiogo 3/19/2013, 9:47 pm

Thanks, Rob. I've had a few offers from friends. We shall see. Yiogo

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Post by WVBE Shooter 3/19/2013, 10:47 pm

Sounds like your not quite ready for reloading, however I agree with everyone else it is the only way to when shooting bullseye. As for using someone else's reloads I wouldn't recommend it. The last thing you want is to have a malfunction which damages your equipment or yourself. It puts both parties in a bad situation.

Good Luck.

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Post by Yiogo 3/20/2013, 8:10 am

Thank you, WVBE, for your advice.. Perhaps someday I will start reloading.

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Post by DavidR 3/20/2013, 9:35 am

you can buy match grade lead reloads from NSK sales, and from (zero) at Rose distributing.
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Post by Yiogo 3/20/2013, 1:20 pm

Thanks, David. I'll check it out. Yiogo

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Post by straybrit 3/20/2013, 3:04 pm

Paul at HotShot bullets makes very good bullseye ammo as well. I had a couple thousand he custom made to my specs last year when I was separated from my Dillon. Can't praise him enough - I think I had one misfire out of the whole lot and I'm petty sure that was a duff primer.

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Post by xringshooter 3/20/2013, 5:34 pm

I'd look at putting a rail on the slide if you plan to add an optic sight. A slide mount will align with the barrel; a frame mount doesn't. Where are the iron sights? Mounted on the slide, not the frame. UltraDot optics are guaranteed for life. I've got one on my slide-mounted M1911 wad gun. I've shot thousands of rounds with no problems whatsoever.

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Post by james r chapman 3/20/2013, 7:09 pm

FWW, I've had no problem with the grip mounted scope base ...
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Post by Yiogo 3/20/2013, 9:34 pm

Thanks for the advice, everyone. I'm heading to the range tomorrow to get some shots in with this gun. Yiogo

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Post by LeadSlinger 3/21/2013, 2:46 pm

I have a Remington R1 Enhanced (that's the factor model - I've done nothing to it) that feeds and fires semi-wadcutter without any problem. The indoor range of my gun club only allows un-jacketed lead bullets, so I'm happy with the results.

This may be a bit off topic, but why is hardball a disadvantage? Is it the recoil? ballistics?

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Post by sixftunda 3/21/2013, 3:26 pm

If its hardball winchester white box then it is both accuracy and recoil.
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Post by DeweyHales 3/21/2013, 5:33 pm

xringshooter wrote:I'd look at putting a rail on the slide if you plan to add an optic sight. A slide mount will align with the barrel; a frame mount doesn't. Where are the iron sights? Mounted on the slide, not the frame. UltraDot optics are guaranteed for life. I've got one on my slide-mounted M1911 wad gun. I've shot thousands of rounds with no problems whatsoever.

As an alternate viewpoint, there are plenty of great shooters that use frame mounts. Frame mounts offer a lot of versatility for ammo options. The mount is aligned with the barrel. With either design, if the barrel doesn't lock up the same, you have problems. The recoil impulse with a frame mount more closely mimics the feel of an iron sighted gun.

Winning scores have been fired with either. Shoot both, and pick what works for you. There are masters and high masters that shoot both designs.
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Post by Yiogo 3/21/2013, 6:13 pm

Such great advice. Thank you so much. Bullseye people are so sharing. I had a pretty decent day at the range. Yiogo

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Post by gunr 4/30/2013, 9:38 pm

Yiogo,
I have an R1 with an Aimtech grip mount with a red dot on it.
I just started shooting 45 in Bullseye after a couple of years of informal competition with a 22 caliber.
The Remington shoots very well for a stock mil-spec gun.
I shoot 160 grain semi wad cutter bullets over 3.8 grains of Bullseye powder.
The Good:
Good groups with stock barrel and parts.
Reliable. I had no failures in the 900 match while others with much more expensive guns had alibies.
Inexpensive. Especially mine. I upgraded from a gun I won on a gun raffle for $80.
The Bad:
The Sights. Drift only adjustable sights on a target gun doesn't work. (Another $120 for scope and mount)
The Trigger. Even with some smoothing work by my friend with trigger jigs and stones the pull is 5 lbs + oz.
This really hurt my timed and rapid fire scores.
It's an 80 series trigger which adds to the pull weight.
But with all that said it's way more accurate than my Taurus 1911, but for $159 + a $3 ticket it's not that bad either.
I do reload on a Lee single stage for 38 & 45 but I don't shoot a lot yet.
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Post by Yiogo 5/12/2013, 9:59 pm

Thanks for all the great advice. As it turns out, I installed adjustable rear sights on my R1 but have yet to use it in a match.
Perhaps I will try it in our summer league. Yiogo

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