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I Need Accurate No.5 Recommendations
by Tim:H11 1/24/2021, 11:35 am
Does anyone here use Accurate No. 5 powder for anything? I fell into having a pound of it and I’m not sure what to use it for.
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Re: I Need Accurate No.5 Recommendations
by messenger 1/24/2021, 12:18 pm
I used it years ago. But to get good 50yd groups I had to run very stout loads. 8.4grs.
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Re: I Need Accurate No.5 Recommendations
by 7tcu 1/24/2021, 1:12 pm
check their loading data on line.
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Re: I Need Accurate No.5 Recommendations
by Slamfire 2/9/2021, 8:25 am
This is my data with AA#5. It works well in 38 Special, with 38 Special equivalent loads in 357 Magnum cases, 44 Special, 45 Long Colt, and the 45 ACP
38 Special
S&W M64-5 4" barrel
158 JSP RMR Bullets 6.2 grs AA#5 lot DM mixed nickel cases WSP
10-Jun-20 T = 88 °F
Ave Vel = 771.4
Std Dev = 39.35
ES = 143
High = 836.6
Low = 693.5
N = 19
Taurus M85 Stainless 2" Barrel
158 JSP RMR Bullets 6.2 grs AA#5 lot DM mixed nickel cases WSP
10-Jun-20 T = 88 °F
Ave Vel = 697.1
Std Dev = 34.3
ES = 97.07
High = 736.5
Low = 659.4
N = 10
357 Magnum
M66-2 4" Barrel
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.0 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Midway cases WSP
19-Sep-18 T = 90 ° F
Ave Vel = 797
Std Dev = 29
ES = 126
High = 861
Low = 735
N = 19
Accurate, no leading
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.5 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Midway cases WSP
19-Sep-18 T = 90 ° F
Ave Vel = 833
Std Dev = 20
ES = 73
High = 875
Low = 802
N = 24
Accurate, no leading
Colt Trooper MKIII 6" Barrel
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.0 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Midway cases WSP
19-Sep-18 T = 85 ° F
Ave Vel = 837
Std Dev = 30
ES = 93.74
High = 873.2
Low = 779.5
N = 25
very accurate, no leading, shot pt of aim, louder, more recoil
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.0 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 R-P cases WSP
11-Oct-18 T = 71 ° F
Ave Vel = 824
Std Dev = 23
ES = 82.73
High = 861.1
Low = 778.4
N = 12
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.5 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Master nickle cases WSP
19-Sep-18 T = 85 ° F
Ave Vel = 863
Std Dev = 29
ES = 115.7
High = 920.1
Low = 804.4
N = 25
very accurate, no leading, loud, shot point of aim.
44 Special
M624 4 “ Barrel
240 LSWC Valiant 8.5 grs AA#5 Lot 35 590 Mixed Brass WLP
3-Mar-06 T = 64 °F Accurate
Ave Vel = 790.4
Std Dev = 30.69
ES= 134
High= 845.7
Low= 711.6
N = 32
240 LSWC Valiant 9.0 grs AA#5 Lot 35 590 Mixed Brass WLP
3-Mar-06T = 64 °F Very Accurate
Ave Vel = 845.5
Std Dev = 17.43
ES= 51.74
High= 869.9
Low= 818.1
N = 10
45ACP
Kimber Custom Classic
230 LRN 7.0 grs AA#5 lot 12599 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 788 fps
Std Dev = 17
ES = 76.3
High = 827.5
Low = 751.2
N = 13
230 LRN 7.5 grs AA#5 lot 12599 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 829 fps
Std Dev = 20
ES = 63
High = 863
Low = 800
15
230 LRN Valiant 7.8 grs AA#5 lot 12599 Mixed brass WLP (brass)
16-May-09 high 83 °F OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
Ave Vel = 874.7
Std Dev = 16.3
ES = 78.33
High = 916.4
Low = 838
N = 30
230 LRN Valiant 8.0 grs AA#5 lot 12599 Mixed brass WLP (brass)
16-May-09 high 83 °F OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
Ave Vel = 890.2
Std Dev = 11.48
ES = 40.44
High = 911.8
Low = 871.4
N = 16
230 FMJ (R-P) 7.8 grs AA#5 lot DM Speer once fired cases WLP (brass)
12-Dec-11 T =53 °F OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
Ave Vel = 847.1
Std Dev = 19.59
ES = 86.17
High = 877.2
Low = 791.1
N = 14
Accurate but high.
M1911 Les Baer Wadcutter
200 LSWC (H&G 68 type) 6.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM WLP, mixed cases
13-Sep-18 T = 75 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
Ave Vel = 735.2
Std Dev = 16.37
ES = 60.17
High = 770.1
Low = 710
N = 21
accurate at 25 yards.
200 LSWC Magnus 7.0 grs AA#5 lot DM WLP brass mixed cases
23-Mar-16 T = 72 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
Ave Vel = 815.5
Std Dev = 17.14
ES = 68
High = 847.5
Low = 779.5
N = 21
accurate, functioned and slide locked back
200 LSWC Xtreme Plated SWC 6.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM WLP, mixed cases
13-Sep-18 T = 75 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
Ave Vel = 695.7
Std Dev = 23.15
ES = 95.4
High = 733.4
Low = 638
N = 20
accurate at 25 yards.
200 Xtreme plated SWC 7.0 grs AA#5 lot DM WLP brass mixed cases
23-Mar-16 T = 72 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
Ave Vel = 784.2
Std Dev = 27.23
ES = 110
High = 840.8
Low = 730.8
N = 16
accurate, strong ejection.
Rock Island Arsenal GI M1911 RIA 5" barrel
185 gr Speer Gold Dot 9.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM Mixed cases WLP OAL 1.210"
taper crimp 0.469"
27-May-20 T = 80 °F
Ave Vel = 984
Std Dev = 26.09
ES = 91.41
High = = 1028
Low = 936.7
N = 11
230 FMJ Brass Case Blazer, small pistol primers
10-Jun-20 T =91 °F
Ave Vel = 789
Std Dev = 9.05
ES = 28016
High = = 804.2
Low = 776
N = 10
230 FMJ 7.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM WSP OAL 1.265" Small primer cases,taper crimp 0.469"
16-Apr-20 T = 68 °F
Ave Vel = 731.5
Std Dev = 10.39
ES = 31
High = = 748
Low = 717
N = 9
230 FMJ 7.8 grs AA#5 Lot DM WLP OAL 1.265" taper crimp 0.469"
13-Sep-18 T = 82 °F
Ave Vel = 815.4
Std Dev = 18.02
ES = 68.22
High = = 847.6
Low = 779.4
N = 28
230 RMR FMJ 7.8 grs AA#5 Lot DM small primer brass WSP OAL 1.265"
taper crimp 0.469"
10-Jun-20 T = 91 °F
Ave Vel = 805.6
Std Dev = 12.56
ES = 39.38
High = = 822.4
Low = 783
N = 16
230 gr Valiant LRN 7.0 grs AA#5 lot 12599 WLPOAL 1.250" taper crimp 0.469"
13-Aug-18 T = 90 °F
Ave Vel = 780
Std Dev = 15.58
ES = 56.8
High = = 806.1
Low = 749.3
N = 26
230 gr Valiant LRN 7.25 grs AA#5 lot DM WLP(brass)OAL 1.250" taper crimp 0.469"
13-Aug-18 T = 90 °F
Ave Vel = 815.9
Std Dev = 17.2
ES = 76.78
High = = 846.9
Low = 770.1
N = 28
230 gr Valiant LRN 8.0 grsAA#5 lot 12599 WLP OAL 1.250" taper crimp 0.469"
18-Dec-17 T = 60 °F
Ave Vel = 872.6
Std Dev = 16.79
ES = 70.3
High = = 916.2
Low = 845.9
N = 24
5 1/2" USFA Rodeo 45 LC
250 LRN (.452") 8.5 grs Unique thrown, R-P cases, CCI300 primers
12-May-02 T = 80°F
Ave Vel = 855
Std Dev = 16
ES 59.91
High 885.4
Low 825.5
Number Shots 12
250 LRN (.452") 9.5 grains AA#5 thrown, R-P cases, CCI300 primers Taper Crimp
12-May-02 T = 80°F
Ave Vel = 728.4
Std Dev = 26.66
ES 118.7
High 786.6
Low 667.8
Number Shots 32
250 LRN (.452") 10.5 grains AA#5 thrown, R-P cases, CCI300 primers Taper Crimp
12-May-02 T = 80°F Excellent Accuracy
Ave Vel = 792
Std Dev = 29
ES 97.52
High 843.4
Low 745.8
Number Shots 30
250 LRN (.452") 11.0 grains AA#5 thrown, various cases, CCI300 primers Roll Crimp
18-May-02 T = 80°F Excellent Accuracy little powder residue
Ave Vel = 853
Std Dev = 20
ES 87.85
High 890.9
Low 803
Number Shots 24
38 Special
S&W M64-5 4" barrel
158 JSP RMR Bullets 6.2 grs AA#5 lot DM mixed nickel cases WSP
10-Jun-20 T = 88 °F
Ave Vel = 771.4
Std Dev = 39.35
ES = 143
High = 836.6
Low = 693.5
N = 19
Taurus M85 Stainless 2" Barrel
158 JSP RMR Bullets 6.2 grs AA#5 lot DM mixed nickel cases WSP
10-Jun-20 T = 88 °F
Ave Vel = 697.1
Std Dev = 34.3
ES = 97.07
High = 736.5
Low = 659.4
N = 10
357 Magnum
M66-2 4" Barrel
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.0 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Midway cases WSP
19-Sep-18 T = 90 ° F
Ave Vel = 797
Std Dev = 29
ES = 126
High = 861
Low = 735
N = 19
Accurate, no leading
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.5 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Midway cases WSP
19-Sep-18 T = 90 ° F
Ave Vel = 833
Std Dev = 20
ES = 73
High = 875
Low = 802
N = 24
Accurate, no leading
Colt Trooper MKIII 6" Barrel
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.0 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Midway cases WSP
19-Sep-18 T = 85 ° F
Ave Vel = 837
Std Dev = 30
ES = 93.74
High = 873.2
Low = 779.5
N = 25
very accurate, no leading, shot pt of aim, louder, more recoil
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.0 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 R-P cases WSP
11-Oct-18 T = 71 ° F
Ave Vel = 824
Std Dev = 23
ES = 82.73
High = 861.1
Low = 778.4
N = 12
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.5 grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Master nickle cases WSP
19-Sep-18 T = 85 ° F
Ave Vel = 863
Std Dev = 29
ES = 115.7
High = 920.1
Low = 804.4
N = 25
very accurate, no leading, loud, shot point of aim.
44 Special
M624 4 “ Barrel
240 LSWC Valiant 8.5 grs AA#5 Lot 35 590 Mixed Brass WLP
3-Mar-06 T = 64 °F Accurate
Ave Vel = 790.4
Std Dev = 30.69
ES= 134
High= 845.7
Low= 711.6
N = 32
240 LSWC Valiant 9.0 grs AA#5 Lot 35 590 Mixed Brass WLP
3-Mar-06T = 64 °F Very Accurate
Ave Vel = 845.5
Std Dev = 17.43
ES= 51.74
High= 869.9
Low= 818.1
N = 10
45ACP
Kimber Custom Classic
230 LRN 7.0 grs AA#5 lot 12599 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 788 fps
Std Dev = 17
ES = 76.3
High = 827.5
Low = 751.2
N = 13
230 LRN 7.5 grs AA#5 lot 12599 WLP Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
27 Feb 2010 T = 48 ° F
Ave Vel = 829 fps
Std Dev = 20
ES = 63
High = 863
Low = 800
15
230 LRN Valiant 7.8 grs AA#5 lot 12599 Mixed brass WLP (brass)
16-May-09 high 83 °F OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
Ave Vel = 874.7
Std Dev = 16.3
ES = 78.33
High = 916.4
Low = 838
N = 30
230 LRN Valiant 8.0 grs AA#5 lot 12599 Mixed brass WLP (brass)
16-May-09 high 83 °F OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
Ave Vel = 890.2
Std Dev = 11.48
ES = 40.44
High = 911.8
Low = 871.4
N = 16
230 FMJ (R-P) 7.8 grs AA#5 lot DM Speer once fired cases WLP (brass)
12-Dec-11 T =53 °F OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
Ave Vel = 847.1
Std Dev = 19.59
ES = 86.17
High = 877.2
Low = 791.1
N = 14
Accurate but high.
M1911 Les Baer Wadcutter
200 LSWC (H&G 68 type) 6.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM WLP, mixed cases
13-Sep-18 T = 75 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
Ave Vel = 735.2
Std Dev = 16.37
ES = 60.17
High = 770.1
Low = 710
N = 21
accurate at 25 yards.
200 LSWC Magnus 7.0 grs AA#5 lot DM WLP brass mixed cases
23-Mar-16 T = 72 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
Ave Vel = 815.5
Std Dev = 17.14
ES = 68
High = 847.5
Low = 779.5
N = 21
accurate, functioned and slide locked back
200 LSWC Xtreme Plated SWC 6.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM WLP, mixed cases
13-Sep-18 T = 75 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
Ave Vel = 695.7
Std Dev = 23.15
ES = 95.4
High = 733.4
Low = 638
N = 20
accurate at 25 yards.
200 Xtreme plated SWC 7.0 grs AA#5 lot DM WLP brass mixed cases
23-Mar-16 T = 72 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
Ave Vel = 784.2
Std Dev = 27.23
ES = 110
High = 840.8
Low = 730.8
N = 16
accurate, strong ejection.
Rock Island Arsenal GI M1911 RIA 5" barrel
185 gr Speer Gold Dot 9.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM Mixed cases WLP OAL 1.210"
taper crimp 0.469"
27-May-20 T = 80 °F
Ave Vel = 984
Std Dev = 26.09
ES = 91.41
High = = 1028
Low = 936.7
N = 11
230 FMJ Brass Case Blazer, small pistol primers
10-Jun-20 T =91 °F
Ave Vel = 789
Std Dev = 9.05
ES = 28016
High = = 804.2
Low = 776
N = 10
230 FMJ 7.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM WSP OAL 1.265" Small primer cases,taper crimp 0.469"
16-Apr-20 T = 68 °F
Ave Vel = 731.5
Std Dev = 10.39
ES = 31
High = = 748
Low = 717
N = 9
230 FMJ 7.8 grs AA#5 Lot DM WLP OAL 1.265" taper crimp 0.469"
13-Sep-18 T = 82 °F
Ave Vel = 815.4
Std Dev = 18.02
ES = 68.22
High = = 847.6
Low = 779.4
N = 28
230 RMR FMJ 7.8 grs AA#5 Lot DM small primer brass WSP OAL 1.265"
taper crimp 0.469"
10-Jun-20 T = 91 °F
Ave Vel = 805.6
Std Dev = 12.56
ES = 39.38
High = = 822.4
Low = 783
N = 16
230 gr Valiant LRN 7.0 grs AA#5 lot 12599 WLPOAL 1.250" taper crimp 0.469"
13-Aug-18 T = 90 °F
Ave Vel = 780
Std Dev = 15.58
ES = 56.8
High = = 806.1
Low = 749.3
N = 26
230 gr Valiant LRN 7.25 grs AA#5 lot DM WLP(brass)OAL 1.250" taper crimp 0.469"
13-Aug-18 T = 90 °F
Ave Vel = 815.9
Std Dev = 17.2
ES = 76.78
High = = 846.9
Low = 770.1
N = 28
230 gr Valiant LRN 8.0 grsAA#5 lot 12599 WLP OAL 1.250" taper crimp 0.469"
18-Dec-17 T = 60 °F
Ave Vel = 872.6
Std Dev = 16.79
ES = 70.3
High = = 916.2
Low = 845.9
N = 24
5 1/2" USFA Rodeo 45 LC
250 LRN (.452") 8.5 grs Unique thrown, R-P cases, CCI300 primers
12-May-02 T = 80°F
Ave Vel = 855
Std Dev = 16
ES 59.91
High 885.4
Low 825.5
Number Shots 12
250 LRN (.452") 9.5 grains AA#5 thrown, R-P cases, CCI300 primers Taper Crimp
12-May-02 T = 80°F
Ave Vel = 728.4
Std Dev = 26.66
ES 118.7
High 786.6
Low 667.8
Number Shots 32
250 LRN (.452") 10.5 grains AA#5 thrown, R-P cases, CCI300 primers Taper Crimp
12-May-02 T = 80°F Excellent Accuracy
Ave Vel = 792
Std Dev = 29
ES 97.52
High 843.4
Low 745.8
Number Shots 30
250 LRN (.452") 11.0 grains AA#5 thrown, various cases, CCI300 primers Roll Crimp
18-May-02 T = 80°F Excellent Accuracy little powder residue
Ave Vel = 853
Std Dev = 20
ES 87.85
High 890.9
Low 803
Number Shots 24
Last edited by Slamfire on 2/11/2021, 8:14 am; edited 1 time in total
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Re: I Need Accurate No.5 Recommendations
by james r chapman 2/9/2021, 11:05 am
Well!
There ya have it!!
There ya have it!!
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