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Post by Tim:H11 1/24/2021, 11:35 am

Does anyone here use Accurate No. 5 powder for anything? I fell into having a pound of it and I’m not sure what to use it for.
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Post by messenger 1/24/2021, 12:18 pm

I used it years ago. But to get good 50yd groups I had to run very stout loads.  8.4grs.

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Post by 7tcu 1/24/2021, 1:12 pm

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Post by Wobbley 1/24/2021, 5:26 pm

Good 9mm and 357 powder.
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Post by Slamfire 2/9/2021, 8:25 am

This is my data with AA#5. It works well in 38 Special, with 38 Special equivalent loads in 357 Magnum cases, 44 Special, 45 Long Colt, and the 45 ACP


38 Special
 
S&W M64-5 4" barrel
    
158 JSP RMR Bullets 6.2 grs AA#5 lot DM mixed nickel cases WSP
    
10-Jun-20 T = 88 °F   
    
Ave Vel = 771.4    
Std Dev = 39.35   
ES = 143   
High = 836.6   
Low = 693.5   
N = 19   
 
Taurus M85 Stainless  2" Barrel 
 
158 JSP RMR Bullets 6.2 grs AA#5 lot DM mixed nickel cases WSP
 
10-Jun-20 T = 88 °F
 
Ave Vel = 697.1
Std Dev = 34.3
ES = 97.07
High = 736.5
Low = 659.4
N = 10
 
 
 
357 Magnum
 
M66-2 4" Barrel
  
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.0  grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Midway cases WSP
 
19-Sep-18 T = 90 ° F
 
Ave Vel = 797
Std Dev = 29
ES  = 126
High  = 861
Low  = 735
N = 19
  
Accurate, no leading
  
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.5  grs AA#5 lot DM
357 Midway cases WSP
 
19-Sep-18 T = 90 ° F
 
Ave Vel = 833
Std Dev = 20
ES  = 73
High  = 875
Low  = 802
N = 24
  
Accurate, no leading
 
Colt Trooper MKIII 6" Barrel
  
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.0  grs AA#5 lot DM 
357  Midway cases WSP 
  
19-Sep-18 T = 85 ° F 
  
Ave Vel = 837   
Std Dev = 30   
ES  = 93.74   
High  = 873.2  
Low  = 779.5  
N = 25  
  
very accurate, no leading, shot pt of aim, louder, more recoil
  
  
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.0  grs AA#5 lot DM 
357 R-P  cases WSP 
  
11-Oct-18 T = 71 ° F 
  
Ave Vel = 824   
Std Dev = 23   
ES  = 82.73   
High  = 861.1  
Low  = 778.4  
N = 12  
  
  
158 gr Valiant LRN 6.5  grs AA#5 lot DM 
357 Master nickle cases WSP 
  
19-Sep-18 T = 85 ° F 
  
Ave Vel = 863  
Std Dev = 29 
ES  = 115.7  
High  = 920.1 
Low  = 804.4 
N = 25 
  
very accurate, no leading, loud, shot point of aim.
  
 
44 Special
 
M624 4 “ Barrel
 
240 LSWC Valiant 8.5 grs AA#5 Lot 35 590  Mixed Brass WLP                 
3-Mar-06 T = 64 °F Accurate                                                                      
                                                                                                                                        
Ave Vel = 790.4                                                                                      
Std Dev = 30.69                                                                                        
ES= 134                                                                                                   
High= 845.7                                                                                              
Low= 711.6                                                                                              
N = 32                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                 
240 LSWC Valiant 9.0 grs AA#5 Lot 35 590  Mixed Brass WLP                 
3-Mar-06T = 64 °F Very Accurate                                                              
                                                                                                                                        
Ave Vel = 845.5                                                                                      
Std Dev = 17.43                                                                                        
ES= 51.74                                                                                                 
High= 869.9                                                                                              
Low= 818.1                                                                                              
N = 10
 
 
 
 
45ACP
 
 
Kimber Custom Classic    
    
    
230 LRN 7.0 grs AA#5 lot 12599 WLP  Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
 27 Feb 2010         T = 48 ° F 
    
Ave Vel = 788 fps  
Std Dev = 17   
ES = 76.3   
High =  827.5   
Low = 751.2   
N = 13   
    
230 LRN 7.5 grs AA#5 lot 12599 WLP  Mixed Military OAL 1.245" taper crimp 0.469"
 27 Feb 2010         T = 48 ° F 
    
Ave Vel = 829 fps  
Std Dev = 20   
ES = 63   
High =  863   
Low = 800    
 15   
    
230 LRN Valiant 7.8 grs AA#5 lot 12599 Mixed brass WLP (brass)
16-May-09  high 83  °F  OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
 
Ave Vel = 874.7    
Std Dev = 16.3      
ES = 78.33   
High =  916.4   
Low = 838   
N = 30   
    
    
230 LRN Valiant 8.0 grs AA#5 lot 12599 Mixed brass WLP (brass)
16-May-09  high 83  °F  OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
 
Ave Vel = 890.2    
Std Dev = 11.48      
ES = 40.44   
High =  911.8   
Low = 871.4   
N = 16   
    
230 FMJ (R-P) 7.8 grs AA#5 lot DM Speer once fired cases WLP (brass)
12-Dec-11  T =53  °F  OAL 1.250" taper crimped 0.469"
    
Ave Vel = 847.1    
Std Dev = 19.59      
ES = 86.17   
High =  877.2   
Low = 791.1   
N = 14   
    
Accurate but high.     
    
 
 
M1911 Les Baer Wadcutter    
     
     
200 LSWC (H&G 68 type) 6.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM WLP, mixed cases  
13-Sep-18 T = 75 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
      
     
Ave Vel = 735.2     
Std Dev = 16.37     
ES = 60.17     
High =  770.1    
Low = 710    
N = 21    
     
accurate at 25 yards.     
     
200 LSWC Magnus 7.0 grs AA#5 lot DM WLP brass mixed cases
23-Mar-16 T = 72 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
      
     
Ave Vel = 815.5     
Std Dev = 17.14      
ES = 68      
High =  847.5     
Low = 779.5     
N = 21     
     
accurate, functioned and slide locked back   
     
200 LSWC Xtreme Plated SWC  6.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM WLP, mixed cases
13-Sep-18 T = 75 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
      
     
Ave Vel = 695.7     
Std Dev = 23.15     
ES = 95.4     
High =  733.4    
Low = 638    
N = 20    
     
accurate at 25 yards.     
     
200 Xtreme plated SWC 7.0 grs AA#5 lot DM WLP brass mixed cases
23-Mar-16 T = 72 °F OAL 1.250" Taper Crimp 0.469"
      
     
Ave Vel = 784.2     
Std Dev = 27.23      
ES = 110      
High =  840.8     
Low = 730.8     
N = 16     
     
accurate, strong ejection.    
 
 
Rock Island Arsenal GI M1911 RIA  5" barrel
     
185 gr Speer Gold Dot 9.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM Mixed cases WLP OAL 1.210"
taper crimp 0.469"     
     
27-May-20 T = 80 °F    
     
Ave Vel = 984    
Std Dev = 26.09    
ES = 91.41    
High =  =  1028    
Low = 936.7    
N = 11    
 
230 FMJ Brass Case Blazer, small pistol primers   
10-Jun-20 T =91  °F    
     
Ave Vel = 789    
Std Dev = 9.05    
ES = 28016    
High =  =  804.2    
Low = 776    
N = 10    
     
     
230 FMJ 7.5 grs AA#5 Lot DM  WSP OAL 1.265" Small primer cases,taper crimp 0.469"
16-Apr-20 T = 68 °F    
     
Ave Vel = 731.5    
Std Dev = 10.39    
ES = 31    
High =  =  748    
Low = 717    
N = 9    
     
     
230 FMJ 7.8 grs AA#5 Lot DM  WLP OAL 1.265" taper crimp 0.469"
13-Sep-18 T = 82 °F    
     
Ave Vel = 815.4    
Std Dev = 18.02    
ES = 68.22    
High =  =  847.6    
Low = 779.4    
N = 28    
     
     
230 RMR FMJ 7.8 grs AA#5 Lot DM small primer brass WSP OAL 1.265"
taper crimp 0.469"     
     
10-Jun-20 T = 91 °F    
     
Ave Vel = 805.6    
Std Dev = 12.56    
ES = 39.38    
High =  =  822.4    
Low = 783    
N = 16    
     
     
230 gr Valiant LRN 7.0 grs AA#5 lot 12599 WLPOAL 1.250"  taper crimp 0.469"
13-Aug-18 T = 90 °F    
     
Ave Vel = 780    
Std Dev = 15.58    
ES = 56.8    
High =  =  806.1    
Low = 749.3    
N = 26    
     
230 gr Valiant LRN 7.25 grs AA#5 lot DM WLP(brass)OAL 1.250"  taper crimp 0.469"
13-Aug-18 T = 90 °F    
     
Ave Vel = 815.9    
Std Dev = 17.2    
ES = 76.78    
High =  =  846.9    
Low = 770.1    
N = 28    
     
     
     
230 gr Valiant LRN 8.0  grsAA#5 lot 12599  WLP OAL 1.250"  taper crimp 0.469"
18-Dec-17 T = 60 °F    
     
Ave Vel = 872.6    
Std Dev = 16.79    
ES = 70.3    
High =  =  916.2    
Low = 845.9    
N = 24    
     
     
 
     
 
5 1/2" USFA Rodeo 45 LC                                               
                                                                                                                              
250 LRN (.452") 8.5 grs Unique  thrown, R-P cases, CCI300 primers  
12-May-02 T = 80°F                                                                                                         
Ave Vel =           855                                                                                                          
Std Dev =           16                                                                            
ES                      59.91                                                                       
High                   885.4                                                                       
Low                   825.5                                                                       
Number Shots          12                                                                           
                                                                                                         
250 LRN  (.452") 9.5 grains AA#5 thrown, R-P cases, CCI300 primers Taper Crimp
                                                                                                        
12-May-02 T = 80°F
                                                                                                         
Ave Vel =           728.4                                                                                                     
Std Dev =           26.66                                                                      
ES                      118.7                                                                      
High                   786.6                                                                       
Low                   667.8                                                                       
Number Shots          32                                                                           
                                                                                                         
250 LRN  (.452")  10.5 grains AA#5 thrown, R-P cases, CCI300 primers Taper Crimp
                                                                                                        
12-May-02 T = 80°F  Excellent Accuracy
                                                                                                         
Ave Vel =           792                                                                        
Std Dev =           29                                                                           
ES                      97.52                                                                        
High                   843.4                                                                       
Low                   745.8                                                                       
Number Shots          30                                                                           
                                                                                                         
250 LRN  (.452")  11.0 grains AA#5 thrown, various cases, CCI300 primers Roll Crimp
 
18-May-02 T = 80°F Excellent Accuracy little powder residue
                                                                                                        
Ave Vel =           853                                                                                                       
Std Dev =           20                                                                           
ES                      87.85                                                                      
High                   890.9                                                                       
Low                   803                                                                         
Number Shots    24      


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Post by james r chapman 2/9/2021, 11:05 am

Well!
There ya have it!!
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