Revolvers in Bullseye?

I have not seen any comments on folks using revolvers in BE competition.  Not good enough?

Lol

Many 2600+ shooters with revolvers!

Just simpler with semi autos

I’m only aware of a few 2650 revolver shooters and not too many 2600.
I think the revolvers are accurate enough, but most of the shooters just cannot shoot a revolver well one handed. PPC is another story.
Jon

I see people chasing distinguished revolver.

Ceteris paribus revolver will trail a 1911 in accuracy, slightly.

Getting through rapid stages by thumbing the hammer or double action is hard either way.

Personally I enjoy not having to chase brass.

Well, not too many, but, many are very proficient still.
Looking at the NRA and CMP revolver scores, there are some amazing scores!
Similar topics at bottom of thread is good reading.

Merick wrote:I see people chasing distinguished revolver.

Ceteris paribus revolver will trail a 1911 in accuracy, slightly.

Getting through rapid stages by thumbing the hammer or double action is hard either way.

Personally I enjoy not having to chase brass.

In the rapid fire can you shoot single action as long as you can keep up?

I have a friend that shoots revolvers only and does well with them. I shoot a revolver single action only. Double action is hard for me to get a smooth trigger squeeze from beginning to hammer fall. I can actually miss the whole target shooting double action. I don't like the progressively heavier pull, then the sear releases the hammer and that's when the gun makes a big jerk. Two handed is not so bad but one handed is like I can't grip the gun tight enough to keep the sights aligned. I'd need some proper coaching and lots of practice to change from SA to DA, love to learn it though.
 Stan

dannyd93140 wrote:

Merick wrote:I see people chasing distinguished revolver.

Ceteris paribus revolver will trail a 1911 in accuracy, slightly.

Getting through rapid stages by thumbing the hammer or double action is hard either way.

Personally I enjoy not having to chase brass.

In the rapid fire can you shoot single action as long as you can keep up?

Theoretically yes. Can I? No.

I think the best currently may be Jason Gregoire, currently with the AMU.

He posts occasionally on this forum

Greetings,

I used a revolver for the 45 portion of the 2700 and averaged 2580 for a year or two.

I also fired 2605 and 2607 for my personal best.

Cheers,

Dave

I used to use an S&W model 17-4 for bullseye shooting but once I bought a model 41 I did not look back.  My best score with a revolver on slow fire was only a few points lower but it is a lot harder to shoot a revolver well for rapid fire.  Accuracy was not a problem with the revolver.  Also cocking the hammer with my shooting thumb has gotten harder on my hands as I have gotten older.

Well I guess I asked the wrong question; is it legal to use single action for rapid fire?

dannyd93140 wrote:Well I guess I asked the wrong question; is it legal to use single action for rapid fire?

Yes, of course. But you still can't touch the gun after commence firing with your (not a) support hand. The shooter would cock the revolver with the shooting hand, while held by that same shooting hand.

SingleActionAndrew wrote:

dannyd93140 wrote:Well I guess I asked the wrong question; is it legal to use single action for rapid fire?

Yes, of course. But you still can't touch the gun after commence firing with your (not a) support hand. The shooter would cock the revolver with the shooting hand, while held by that same shooting hand.

 I'm sure you can cock the hammer with your nonsupport hand, but you cannot hold the gun with both hands. There is no sense in doing it that way, I think it would be a lot slower and too much movement.
 Stan

Regarding the hammers, companies like King gunsight made custom hammers that made it easier to cock the hammer quickly with the shooting hand.  I think S&W did the same.

SingleActionAndrew wrote:

dannyd93140 wrote:Well I guess I asked the wrong question; is it legal to use single action for rapid fire?

Yes, of course. But you still can't touch the gun after commence firing with your (not a) support hand. The shooter would cock the revolver with the shooting hand, while held by that same shooting hand.

I am very good with a revolver and shot cowboy one hand for couple years.  Just never thought about shooting a bullseye match single action because over 50 years ago when revolvers were still used everyone shot double action.


Tried it last night and I can definitely do in the time allotted.  Cowboy shooting is much closer and bigger targets, so I will have to work harder on my 25 yard targets. 

But it's something to think about.

SingleActionAndrew wrote:

dannyd93140 wrote:Well I guess I asked the wrong question; is it legal to use single action for rapid fire?

Yes, of course. But you still can't touch the gun after commence firing with your (not a) support hand. The shooter would cock the revolver with the shooting hand, while held by that same shooting hand.

Never had to use two hands until I turned 64 and got a torn rotator cuff in my left arm.  So I told myself just learn to shot right hand.  This is one of my first try's not that great but from old and weak hand I think I may just may it.

L. Boscoe wrote:I have not seen any comments on folks using revolvers in BE competition.  Not good enough?

Revolvers are accurate enough for bullseye. If a particular revolver isn't accurate enough, it can certainly be made to be so. Revolvers are more challenging to shoot when compared to an auto loader. Because of this, revolvers have been outlived by semi-automatics. There is a section in Gil Hebard's The Pistol Shooters Treasury where he mentions the days of revolvers passing by. 

Revolvers are a funny thing. I have a great admiration for them and the shooters than can shoot them well. I have shot 290+ with my .38 and .45 caliber revolvers on rare occasion. Not a great feat by history's standards but I'm proud of it. It isn't easy. 

There are two ways of going about it. Double action and single action. I think SFC Greg Markowski who is currently in the AMU is one of the best bullseye shooters with a revolver utilizing the double action method. Personally I shoot single action all the way through slow fire and sustained fire. If revolver is an interest then I say go for it. I love em to death and find them very testing of ones abilities.

Thanks for the compliment James! Still loving that addition to my box. Thank you

Starting off in life left handed didn't like auto loader much, so became a revolver guy. They are fun for me.  

This spectacular video from the 30s shows the 1 handed, single action, cock with shooting hand rapid fire technique demonstrated right after the intro:
https://youtu.be/jDP8BRSEjrA

I'm certainly impressed by the guys+gals who choose to and even succeed shooting this way

SingleActionAndrew wrote:

dannyd93140 wrote:Well I guess I asked the wrong question; is it legal to use single action for rapid fire?

But you still can't touch the gun after commence firing with your (not a) support hand. The shooter would cock the revolver with the shooting hand, while held by that same shooting hand.

Greetings,

Would you kindly quote the NRA Precision Pistol rule?

Reading comprehension is my weak suit and I cannot find it.

Cheers,

Dave

Revolvers are probably one of the most challenging yet most fun guns in the sport. You have options as far as the platform (smith, colt, ruger, korth, manurhin, ect.) and style of shooting (single or double). Pick what you think is cool, put in the time and you can get some awesome results.

fc60 wrote:

SingleActionAndrew wrote:

dannyd93140 wrote:Well I guess I asked the wrong question; is it legal to use single action for rapid fire?

But you still can't touch the gun after commence firing with your (not a) support hand. The shooter would cock the revolver with the shooting hand, while held by that same shooting hand.

Greetings,

Would you kindly quote the NRA Precision Pistol rule?

Reading comprehension is my weak suit and I cannot find it.

Cheers,

Dave

Dave if you say otherwise I am sure you are more versed. I'll go read. The point of question I believe is specifically sustained (rapid) fire, when shot single action can the support hand be used to cock between shots.

I will definitely be able to make the 10 seconds single action; how the first targets will look that's another story.
( just using one hand for everything)

I think you need a strong grip for DA shooting, like what you get with a Zins grip; your hand is cranked around the grip and your finger is deep in the guard. It gives a lot of leverage on the trigger. Otherworldly se, for SA RF, put your thumb on the hammer THEN grip the gun. Guaranteed you can reach the hammer