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9mm to 38 spec. or 38 super?

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Post by Foundryratjim Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:46 pm

I have found a used Range Officer Target model in 9MM. I would like to have a smith convert it to either 38 spec. or 38 super for Bullseye.
 I load 38 special now. I don't have dies for the 38 super yet. Its my understanding that it will take much more labor (money) to convert to 38 spec. and getting magazines and getting them tuned. I would like to hear from those that have done this in either caliber and how you like it.  

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Post by Rush223 Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:21 pm

Converting to 38 Super should be pretty simple, a new barrel and magazines. I have done this on a Colt but not Springfield Armory. A gunsmith fit barrel and other needed work should be plenty accurate for BE. 
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Post by 1911-45 Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:33 pm

Is 9mm not accurate enough for BE? 
I know 38spec and 38Super are accurate.

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Post by Foundryratjim Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:13 pm

1911-45 wrote:Is 9mm not accurate enough for BE? 
I know 38spec and 38Super are accurate.
 To get BE accuracy the 9mm generally likes more velocity and it makes the recoil more snappy for BE. There are some who use it but I'm not interested in messing with it for BE.

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Post by Rush223 Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:21 pm

9 mm can be accurate enough. I like 147 gr bullets which are not as snappy. But yes, the recoil from some 9mm loads are worse than a 45.
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Post by messenger Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:27 pm

I have a 38 super. It was pretty accurate with a KART 1x16 barrel. I had a KKM 1x10 barrel fitted and it is now the most accurate gun I own. 

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Post by NukeMMC Mon Jan 29, 2024 6:39 pm

I have a 9mm RO converted to 38super by Jon Eulette for an EIC gun. I actually have started shooting 148gr wadcutter loads from it for 25yds and it is a hammer with 38splzish feel during sustained fire. Use Ed Brown 38super mags and Starline supercomp brass and you're all set. 1000% reliable.
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Post by Foundryratjim Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:58 pm

NukeMMC wrote:I have a 9mm RO converted to 38super by Jon Eulette for an EIC gun.  I actually have started shooting 148gr wadcutter loads from it for 25yds and it is a hammer with 38splzish feel during sustained fire.  Use Ed Brown 38super mags and Starline supercomp brass and you're all set.  1000% reliable.
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What diameter are your wad cutters and where did you get them?  Thanks

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Post by NukeMMC Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:23 pm

Those are old Northeast .358 but I have some Brazos Hi-Tek .356 also.
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Post by Foundryratjim Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:41 pm

NukeMMC wrote:Those are old Northeast .358 but I have some Brazos Hi-Tek .356 also.
Brazos stopped making them.....

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Post by NukeMMC Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:51 pm

For now. Same statement on a ton of their bullets, I assume due to their move.
The 150gr SWC are theirs and in stock. They shoot great also.
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Post by chiz1180 Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:09 pm

I have an old school 38spl wadcutter with a custom barrel. Gun is accurate but it is easier to load/shoot 45 on the longline. 38spl mags are expensive and can take patience to find.
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Post by Foundryratjim Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:47 pm

NukeMMC wrote:For now.  Same statement on a ton of their bullets, I assume due to their move.
The 150gr SWC are theirs and in stock.  They shoot great also.
What diameter is your barrel?

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Post by NukeMMC Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:45 am

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