using Clays for 45 ACP

due to Clays is what I got trying to get a 185gr zero swaged load worked up, last year I used 200gr swaged with 4.2 BE and it worked ok but want to reduce recoil 
I have been working down from 4gr clays to 3.6gr clays I shot to day and it still has plenty of kick, how low due you experts go with clays?

I was loading 3.4 gr of Alliant Claydot, which is supposed to copy Hodgdon clays, so that was pretty light, avg 719 fps. I was using a frame mounted Dot, not slide mounted.

Jim

You'll probably find the best accuracy around 3.8 of Clays.  It also is a very soft shooting load.

I have a slide mount 1" ultra dot and have 11#  recoil spring in right now with stock hammer spring. I am not sure what a soft shooting load feels like was going to keep dropping charge down by .1 of a grain until gun would not function right then go up one .1 grain, it seams to be recoiling hard to me with 3.6 of clays loading up 3.5 next test.

thanks for replies

Similar setup to Deerspy, slide mount w/ 1"UD on both wad guns. Short line load with 130 H&G was 3.5 Clays.  Using a 13# Wolf spring, at the end of a 2700 my last 2 rapid fires wouldn't lock back the slide.  Using a 12# Sprinco, it cycled just fine at the end.  With the new wad gun, it likes 3.8 Clays just a little better, so that has become my short line & 50' load.  It also shoots very well in my old wad gun, just not quite as well as the 3.8 load. 

As my new one has become my go to gun, I load for it and live with a bit less accuracy (we're talking 1/8-1/4" at best @ 25 yds) with the backup wad gun.  12# Sprinco's in both.

Allen

I might have to try a Sprinco spring are they different than the Wolf, when I ordered some lighter springs i could not find a 12# so I got a 11# and a 13#,

who do you get them from?

I picked my first one up at Perry.  Since then at Brownells.  Can't really say they're better or worse than Wolf, all I know is that Wolf didn't make a 12# and that's what I felt would let me get through a 2700 without issues.  So far it's worked.
Al

wolff makes 12# springs I have several, the sprinco springs never check to what they are rated, 12 checks 10.5, 10 checks 8.5, 14 checks to be around 12.