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Rings for mounting red dot on 1911 slide

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Post by tomv36 1/30/2015, 8:45 am

I want to use one of my Wilson Combat CQBs for Bullseye. I've had a Ckark rib mounted on it and have a Matchdot 2 for a sight. I want to be able to remove the sight when I clean the gun and understand that the standard Ultradot rings won't return to zero when removed and re installed. What is the best ring option for this purpose?
Here's a picture of the gun along with my Hammerli.

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Post by STEVE SAMELAK 1/30/2015, 8:58 am

the Ultra Dot rings will go back reasonably well if yu glue one side to the sight
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Post by LenV 1/30/2015, 9:12 am

I use Leupold Rifleman rings. They are light and strong. Redfield work nice also.

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Post by BE Mike 1/30/2015, 9:16 am

I don't remove the scope on my bullseye pistols with slide mounted scopes when I clean them. That being said, I use the cradle type scope rings rather than the UltraDot style split rings. I've had good luck with Weaver and Burris Zee scope rings. I do use blue Loctite on the screws. You should use the lowest rings available. There are better rings out there, but more expensive, and I never saw any need to switch.
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Post by dronning 1/30/2015, 9:40 am

I had a set of Burris XTR 30-mm low (1/4" high) rings laying around from a rifle take off and used them for my wad gun.  Overkill but now I have them on everything.

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Post by Al 1/30/2015, 9:46 am

Tom,
I've used low Weavers on all my UD's because I like to do a complete tear down semi annually.  My tear down consists of every part being removed and put in a solvent bath, then scrubbed and blown dry before lubing & reassembly.  If the rings have been properly lapped in and tightened to the same torque I normally do not have to rezero the sight after reassembling.

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Post by DavidR 1/30/2015, 12:13 pm

+2 on weavers, but no mount will go back exactly to its former zero, but with these it will be close.
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Post by Rob Kovach 1/30/2015, 1:54 pm

There are many shooters who think I am crazy on this.  I use Al Marvel's rib with only 3 screws, a 1" Ultradot, and the factory Ultradot rings.  I don't use any loc-tite for ANY of it.  I take everything off and on frequently and I'm never more than a click or 2 off after putting it back on.  I never lapped the rings, or use adhesive.

I use the same sequence to put everything back on every time.  I think that contributes to the consistency in the installation.
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Post by LenV 1/30/2015, 2:43 pm

Well, maybe a little crazy Rob. I have a little pile of junk I haven't got around to throwing away yet. Or, it is possible I also fit that category.

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Post by DavidR 1/30/2015, 4:05 pm

stock rings work and are ok on 22s but your pressing your luck with a 45 they will fail at some point, the weavers wont
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Post by Deerspy 1/30/2015, 5:39 pm

+3 for the weaver low rings with 1 inch ultra dot the work great for me.

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Post by Rob Kovach 1/30/2015, 9:28 pm

David R,
I've been running those aluminum UD rings on a .45 for so long, I just don't believe they are failure prone. The only aluminum UD rings that I saw that failed had loc-tite used on them.  The loc-tite is a stronger bond than the aluminum threads and the bolts just pull the threads right out of the aluminum.  If you go with a clean mount and clean hardware, you are good to go.
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Post by LenV 1/30/2015, 10:55 pm

Hi Rob,

    I will bet you a nickel ( my max bet) that I can get the aluminum rings provided by UD to fail in 10 shots. I should warn you though that I cheat.

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Post by Colt711 1/30/2015, 11:38 pm

Rob & Oldmaster,

You both mention crazy in conjunction with "may" & "little". I have been at this game for some time and it's my belief that the typical Bullseye Shooter is crazy.
                                  
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Post by tomv36 1/31/2015, 10:41 am

Thanks for the help everyone.

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Post by LenV 1/31/2015, 10:53 am

Ron,
  I have been wracking my mind trying to format an argument to disagree with you. I can't  come up with a good counter. So it is possible you may be a little correct.

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Post by DavidR 2/2/2015, 12:22 pm

Rob Kovach wrote:David R,
I've been running those aluminum UD rings on a .45 for so long, I just don't believe they are failure prone. The only aluminum UD rings that I saw that failed had loc-tite used on them.  The loc-tite is a stronger bond than the aluminum threads and the bolts just pull the threads right out of the aluminum.  If you go with a clean mount and clean hardware, you are good to go.

And they will be fine till the day they aren't... hopefully its not during a match where your score counts. Now this is on a slide mount gun, if you have a frame mount they will probably be fine
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Post by Rob Kovach 2/2/2015, 3:39 pm

I mount them on a slide mount.  Remember, I have my irons under the rail so if I have a problem, I have my irons just waiting for me!

Always have a backup plan--but I figure I won't need it.  All of my red dots are 1" Ultradots, and I have all of them mounted with matching rings and 2 rings on each gun.  I have never had a lick of trouble with those rings.
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