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Post by robert84010 Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:37 pm

Does anybody know if the C.C. shooting complex outside of Vegas has pistol or rifle matches?? I could not find anything listed on their website.

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Post by Wobbley Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:47 pm

They would if you ran them.  Build it and they will come.
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Post by robert84010 Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:49 pm

63 million dollars was already spent, I have to build it????? explain that please.

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Post by GrumpyOldMan Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:55 pm

Um, here's what needs built:
Build the organization to plan, get NRA approval or registration, coordinate all logistics and supplies except for the static target holders they have available for the long line, publish the match announcements, take entries, run it, hand out the awards, report it, and then get ready to do it again in six months.

Same problem here where I live: Nice range built, no turning targets, and no one willing to do any heavy lifting to organize and run a match.  Sorry, I'm a little tired and a little busy making a living.

Edited to add:
Proceeds for first howevermany matches go to buying some decent turning target system. For exclusive use at the BE matches. Clark County can buy ONE unit and keep it in repair through the year so some of us can maybe practice...


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Post by robert84010 Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:58 pm

yeah well I live over 6 hours away. I was just wondering if a $63M shooting complex with a golf course and amphitheater held pistol matches. sorry I asked.

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Post by GrumpyOldMan Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:32 pm

robert84010:

You must live 6 hours north...

Bountiful?

At least you have some minimal level of highpower rifle stuff going on very close to you. http://www.centervillesmallarms.org/ 

So it looks like you, too, are stuck with "building it" for the pistol side of life.

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Post by Wobbley Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:38 pm

There is upms.org they have pistol matches in SLC area
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Post by robert84010 Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:49 pm

you know what guys, I asked a simple question about a match for a weekend getaway. I was the outdoor and indoor champion several years at my home range, I used to help coach the UofU pistol team and on the BofD of UPMS. I earned Master and HM cards in HP. I know what is available in my area. 
Just incredible responses to what I thought was a simple question.

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Post by Wobbley Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:10 am

Hey!  Sorry we offended.  But you list no location on your profile so how are we to know?.
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Post by james r chapman Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:52 am

robert84010 wrote:Does anybody know if the C.C. shooting complex outside of Vegas has pistol or rifle matches?? I could not find anything listed on their website.

Thanks.

Looks like a pretty clear and concise question, to me anyway, but, I'm in Harbaugh, Michigan.........


http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/Depts/parks/Pages/ccsc-shootingcomplex.aspx
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Post by robert84010 Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:44 pm

Wobbley wrote:Hey!  Sorry we offended.  But you list no location on your profile so how are we to know?.
How that justifies your first posting makes sense to you but it certainly escapes me. I don't really care to hear your reason for blaming me for no matches because I asked if there are matches. Truly baffling.

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Post by Rob Kovach Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:44 pm

Robert84010,

It's not uncommon for large shooting complexes to cater to the shotgun and non-pistol disciplines, and it's more the norm for active pistol shooters to chip away until they can convince the club to host some pistol matches.

I don't think the guys were "blaming" you or anyone else.  Sure the guys were being a little cheeky, but they aren't wrong.  

It's pistol competitors who have to do the heavy lifting to get a pistol match off the ground.
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Post by james r chapman Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:29 pm

As an aside, Sporting clays shooters will typically pay $15 and up for a round with their buddies. Trap about $5 and up for 15 minutes and often shoot 4 or 5 lines. Skeet the same way.

As Rob said, unfortunately, it's the pistol shooters who have to set things up for the pistol shooters...
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Post by robert84010 Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:47 pm

I've attended rifle matches in Boulder City, but they don't have bullseye there. I was simply hoping pistol matches were happening at the country's largest shooting facility. my bad.
 I completely understand how these things work, it's not my first rodeo. If 65M dollars were spent on the project, I thought it was reasonable to think that rifle pits and target stands could have been installed or a simple 10 position pistol target stand.
When I lived in San Diego a match director fabricated a 12 position portable air run system. He's lets say "frugal", not cheap, so I know it didn't cost a fortune. I won't mention this since I will be responsible for getting it installed in Vegas. Obviously i'm done here.

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Post by Rob Kovach Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:03 pm

Robert,

WE are responsible for all of the venues that we grow our sport to.  The people who are currently in charge of these long gun venues need to see the value in us.

This isn't about you.
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Post by Wobbley Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:36 am

Only thing I could find for bullseye in NV was this http://palominogunclub.org/1101/bullseye-pistol-match-description/ 

Ain't much and Reno ain't Vegas but there it is.
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Post by GrumpyOldMan Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:44 pm

robert84010 wrote:I've attended rifle matches in Boulder City, but they don't have bullseye there. I was simply hoping pistol matches were happening at the country's largest shooting facility. my bad.
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Robert:

I applaud your accomplishments. Yes, it was a simple question, and the simple answer is to me, not just "no", but "No way, they're all way too lazy there!"

I resurrected and RAN the Juniors' smallbore rifle program in Boulder City. When my first son was born and I bowed out, it again died. Kind of hard to run that program without an indoor range. At the time, rifles and targets and whatnot were all stored in a commercial storage unit just off the highway on the SW side of town.  Had better luck starting the "action" type pistol stuff I also started--might have been almost two years of monthly club shoots, with 1 par time stage, 1 speed stage, and 1 Comstock or Virginia Count stage each time. That morphed into a 3-gun subgroup that I believe is still healthily active even after one of the movers and shakers got arrested for breaking into his ex-girlfriend's apartment to retrieve a gun or two he wanted back...or something like that.

FYI, Boulder City used to have a 50-foot indoor range, with an outdoor pistol range with cable-operated turning targets at 25, at an in-town location until it burned to the ground (left a few HP target frames not quite consumed) in...1977. Their Junior rifle program had petered out by then. AFAIK, there have never been any BE Pistol matches in Clark County NV since the early 1970s.

My Dad and I toyed with going to Barstow for their BE matches a few times but never put the trip together. The nearest option now might be San Bernardino.

In the meantime, I will look at the SLC options. Poked around a bit last year but don't remember seeing anything in the NRA match bulletins, but maybe I was looking in the wrong place.

Knowing more of the context of your original question, yeah, I can see you're done. Nothing to look for when you travel there, as far as any BE competitions.

Review the thread and check your response to the first "cheeky" reply about "build it". Hope it makes perfect sense.

Oh, I'm pretty sure the NRA Whittington Center and Camp Perry are both much larger than Clark County's range complex. Ben Avery might be too, but I have never been there and am not familiar from a distance with how many firing points it has.

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