Bullet lube -tumble, pan, or Lubrisizer ?

I have been casting 38 spc and 45 ACP using Lee molds TL358-158-SWC and TL452-230-2R. I have been tumble lubing them twice, first before passing through an appropriate Lee Lube and Size die using Lee Liquid Alox. After drying again, I lube them a second time with the same and after dry, load them. Other brands of molds or Lee patterns seem to use bullet designs that seem to call for the lube groves to be filled with a lube either from pan lubing or running through a Lubrisizer.
I don't plan on casting for rifle.
Other than the fact that I already own these molds and have the Lee Lube and Size dies for the two calibers that I shoot, are there big differences in the results that I would get from using pan or purchase a Lubrisizer.
If I did the pan lube, could I size them after lubing by passing them through my Lee Lube and Size die?
John

noylj wrote:I found decades ago that shooting as-cast (unsized) bullets was more accurate. I went through using a Lubri-Sizer with a size die about 0.001" larger than the average cast bullet diameter, to pan-lubing, to tumble lubing. I find tumble lubing is as good as it gets and a LOT faster than any other method.
I never liked rattling my bullets around for tumble lubing, so I got a glass casserole dish and I put up to 500 bullets in the dish, set them on their sides, and squirt a "z" of LLA or Xlox or 45/45/10 on them and then shuffle or turn them for about 30 seconds or so. Inspect and be sure all bullets have a wet/shiny look. If so, dump out on wax paper or Al foil. If not, squirt just a little more on and shuffle/rotate for another 30 seconds. Bullets should still be silvery and NOT yellow/amber/brown. Most use too much lube.
SAAMI spec for .45 lead bullets is 0.453".
Currently, I don't have enough lead to cast my own (I loved RCBS 452-201-KT and H&G #68 200gn L-SWC molds), and use Zero 200gn swaged and coated L-SWC and Zero 200gn swaged L-SWC.

jglenn21 wrote:45  Lee alox

45 Johnson paste wax

10 odorless mineral spirits

STEVE SAMELAK wrote:It can be purchased pre-made for 17.95 per half gallon

STEVE SAMELAK wrote:nope...brain malfunction on my part

358156hp wrote:You can also mix 60% liquid alox with 40% "Johnsons One Step No Buff Floor Care" wax for a tumble lube version called "Bens Liquid Lube". I haven't used much of it yet, but it is receiving excellent reviews for its simplicity, and efficiency. It's developing a big following with casters who don't use a lubrisizer. It dries with a harder, drier finish than I've experienced with straight tumble lube, or 45/45/10.