Red dot mounting height

Would a dot with a built in Weaver mount be better than one mounted on rings? My question is I guess does mounting height trump other features? If so what Dot with integral mount would you go with?

What red dots have integral mounts?

like an aimpoint? I would say the mounting height isnt the most important factor but its up there. Lack of parralax is important.

After trying some ultradots after playing cheapskate, I can see that there is a difference. A round dot is helpful. Leads to less focusing back and forth. The best quality is the aimpoint and the ultradots. I don't know of a ultradot with integral mount, so if you can afford that it looks like you need an aimpoint.

dan allen wrote:What red dots have integral mounts?

I am looking at these'
Sig Mini Dot $199.00 4moa dot 2.5" 3oz
Vortex Space $179.00 2moa 3" 3.2oz
Konus Atomic $104.00 4moa 2.4". 3.8 oz

The main difference seems to be dot size. I like the ultradot 4 dot so I can choose.
ok back to work talk to you later

Back to dot height. The height will affect wrist angle and arm height. A high arm will turn the wrist down which will put the bore (recoil) lower relative to your arm. And a lower wrist angle firms up better. I know bits of minutiae. But a little change often goes a long ways in BE.

Not the first example of the early dot systems, but I believe it to be the first Aimpoint.
The Oxford was the first I know of.. I 99% sure it was the first. I have a picture of the Oxford system around here somewhere with Joe Pascarella. It mounted quite high compared to present standards..
Jerry

We are talking red dot in chatbox.

Two things to consider:

1. My Ultradot is mounted on Weaver #15 bases directly mounted on the slide. No rib needed.

2. If the mount is too low you can have ejection issues with the empty hitting the dot and bouncing back causing a stovepipe.

I ordered my UD this morning. It is going on a model 41. Leupold rifleman low rings have been recommended. I have a few pair of rings I will look at once the sight gets here.