Aguila Super Extra SV Solid Point Problem :(

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I bought a case of this ammo because of its low price.  I had shot Aguila Super Extra in the past with no problem in my S&W41 but I had problems with the very first round with this ammo: failure to extract or stovepipes with almost every round.  I have no problems with the CMP Eley ammo which is now my favorite ammo for the 41.  Anyone with similar problems?

Magload wrote:I have a Labradar and a M41.  I will try to run the test this next week.  Do you just want a drop of oil on the top round of the 5 in the mag?  I will run it with CCI SV as I don't have the ammo you are using.  Don

Yes, a drop on the brass at the neck, but not bullet, on the top round of each magazine. If you don't mind ensuring that you clean it and shoot a few fouling rounds before the oil and no-oil strings that should make the results as clean as we can expect.

Thanks so much for doing this!

fpk wrote:

Magload wrote:I have a Labradar and a M41.  I will try to run the test this next week.  Do you just want a drop of oil on the top round of the 5 in the mag?  I will run it with CCI SV as I don't have the ammo you are using.  Don

Yes, a drop on the brass at the neck, but not bullet, on the top round of each magazine. If you don't mind ensuring that you clean it and shoot a few fouling rounds before the oil and no-oil strings that should make the results as clean as we can expect.

Thanks so much for doing this!

Well I am not much on cleaning guns that are running 100% but I guess this time I could pull a VFG cleaner or mop through the bore and clean the chamber.  Don

fpk wrote:I just checked some of the rounds in a case I have of the Aguilla SE SV and they do have the slightest hint of something thicker than an oil, which wipes off easily enough with my fingers.  I had never noticed this before and am going to try wiping down two boxes and see if that effects the results. Thanks for pointing this out!

This topic prompted me to check some older Aguilla SE I'd saved from probably 10 years ago and the cases were slick clean then.  I have a habit of keeping some samples of previous lots so I can always make an comparison with newer lots.

Veering off a bit, the new primer compound on CCI LP primers are now yellow as compared to the prior pink color.  So far they still work well.  Anyone have a different result?

fpk wrote:Doesn't the pressure expanding the brass also seal the chamber?

Yes, but it takes the brass much longer to generate a seal allowing for less pressure to be generated.

w4ti wrote:
KC-

Can you speak to why a lot of Euro ammo comes delivered with a light coating of lubricant/grease/oil? What's going on there?

Thanks,
Chase

If you're referring to Eley, it's a bullet lube and is a mixture of tallow and wax. Not oil on the case.

steve_podleski wrote:I bought a case of this ammo because of its low price.  I had shot Aguila Super Extra in the past with no problem in my S&W41 but I had problems with the very first round with this ammo: failure to extract or stovepipes with almost every round.  I have no problems with the CMP Eley ammo which is now my favorite ammo for the 41.  Anyone with similar problems?

I tried it in my Hi Standard Victor with no problems!

Cleaned the chamber of my 41, and extraction problem persisted.

steve_podleski wrote:

steve_podleski wrote:I bought a case of this ammo because of its low price.  I had shot Aguila Super Extra in the past with no problem in my S&W41 but I had problems with the very first round with this ammo: failure to extract or stovepipes with almost every round.  I have no problems with the CMP Eley ammo which is now my favorite ammo for the 41.  Anyone with similar problems?

I tried it in my Hi Standard Victor with no problems!

Cleaned the chamber of my 41, and extraction problem persisted.

sounds like a gun problem.

Chris Miceli wrote:

steve_podleski wrote:

steve_podleski wrote:I bought a case of this ammo because of its low price.  I had shot Aguila Super Extra in the past with no problem in my S&W41 but I had problems with the very first round with this ammo: failure to extract or stovepipes with almost every round.  I have no problems with the CMP Eley ammo which is now my favorite ammo for the 41.  Anyone with similar problems?

I tried it in my Hi Standard Victor with no problems!

Cleaned the chamber of my 41, and extraction problem persisted.

sounds like a gun problem.

Yes.  Would like to get it fixed.  Any suggestions are welcome.  Do not want to use the oil solution.  It does not work 100%

Others have said KC Crawford is the one who can get an M41 running. He has a link at the top of the home page.