Food for ammo thought.
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Food for ammo thought.
I am a noob here, so if this has been discussed before forgive me.
We all know the S&W Model 52 is a very unique gun. It does wonderful with the HBSWC ammunition.
My question is why is their no HBSWC for the 45 ACP crowd ?
Ron
We all know the S&W Model 52 is a very unique gun. It does wonderful with the HBSWC ammunition.
My question is why is their no HBSWC for the 45 ACP crowd ?
Ron
Multiracer- Posts : 996
Join date : 2017-03-15
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Re: Food for ammo thought.
My guess would be the shorter brass of the 45acp which could lead to case capacity & pressure issues. Ammo feeding might also be an issue.
zanemoseley- Posts : 2688
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Re: Food for ammo thought.
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cdrt- Posts : 843
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Re: Food for ammo thought.
Greetings,
Actually, some 45 ACP ammo is loaded with a slight hollow base.
Take apart a commercially loaded Winchester or Western 185grain wad cutter load. In the base is a dimple about 1/10" deep.
Just for grins, I purchased a Herter's 0.452 " swaging die that I will be machining a hollow base punch. The goal is to make full HBWC ammo for the 45 Colt.
Cheers,
Dave
Actually, some 45 ACP ammo is loaded with a slight hollow base.
Take apart a commercially loaded Winchester or Western 185grain wad cutter load. In the base is a dimple about 1/10" deep.
Just for grins, I purchased a Herter's 0.452 " swaging die that I will be machining a hollow base punch. The goal is to make full HBWC ammo for the 45 Colt.
Cheers,
Dave
fc60- Posts : 1451
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Location : South Prairie, WA 98385
Re: Food for ammo thought.
I got half way there Dave. I thought it would be fun to shoot the big gun in a Reeves match without scaring everyone. But I settled for a 185gr FMJSWC. Going to be fun next summer.
LenV- Posts : 4758
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Re: Food for ammo thought.
I don't think a 45 HBWC loaded flush with the case length would feed correctly in my Springfield RO. The S&W 52 was designed to fire the 38 special with a HBWC bullet flush with the case length. I think the Pardini and Benelli pistols are similarly designed for the the S&W 32 long cartridge with a HBWC bullet. I expect there are custom mold makers (NOE comes to mind) that would make a 0.452" HBWC for the 45 acp. Never seen such a bullet - but it could be custom cast.
Bullseye_Stan- Posts : 274
Join date : 2017-06-11
Location : Hampton Roads, VA
Re: Food for ammo thought.
Now that you have me thinking about wad cutters I wonder how close to having the same case volume there would be if I loaded a FMJ upside down in a 45 case. I would think it would be very close to the same volume. Then I could have a boat tailed wad cutter with the same load characteristics as a 185 SWC in the ACP....Yea it's winter here too. I did make it to the range today. I was the only idiot there and my target kept blowing over in the freezing East wind. Almost made it thru 40 rounds before I gave up. At least I got to shoot the last day of the year.
Even a tire wouldn't hold the targets in place Happy New Year...
Even a tire wouldn't hold the targets in place Happy New Year...
LenV- Posts : 4758
Join date : 2014-01-24
Age : 74
Location : Oregon
Re: Food for ammo thought.
Some info:
http://www.smithandwessonforums.com/forum/reloading-bench/17913-452-full-wadcutters.html#/topics/17913?page=1
Bullet maker in the thread:
http://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=71
http://www.smithandwessonforums.com/forum/reloading-bench/17913-452-full-wadcutters.html#/topics/17913?page=1
Bullet maker in the thread:
http://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=71
Sc0- Posts : 315
Join date : 2013-12-29
Location : Houston, TX
Re: Food for ammo thought.
This place has some spendy but unique bullets.
http://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=71&products_id=296&zenid=g59pee9g3d6jmgjap2ei42v7p3
Great minds etc etc. I was posting this while you were also posting.
http://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=71&products_id=296&zenid=g59pee9g3d6jmgjap2ei42v7p3
Great minds etc etc. I was posting this while you were also posting.
LenV- Posts : 4758
Join date : 2014-01-24
Age : 74
Location : Oregon
Re: Food for ammo thought.
I shoot wadcutters in my 629, super accurate at 25, makes huge holes!! Didn't realize anyone made them for the 45. Gonna have to get some. Thanks for the link!!
gregbenner- Posts : 738
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